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Thursday, September 28, 2006

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Theresa

Any way we can get him on the next ballot? Are there even any like him in existence today?

J

"General Washington wasn't that far from where the Continental Congress had met and signed the Declaration of Independence."

And we're not that far from our president classifying that document and selectively re-releasing parts of it to fit his own interpretation.

As a nation, we've all failed high school history.

j

Just curious. Do you celebrate banned books week in your house?

http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/challengedbanned/challengedbanned.htm#wcb

Ed

If you haven't yet read it, I recommend the book 1776. Gave me a true sense of who George Washington, the real man, was all about. It also underscored the lack of leadership we currently "enjoy."

Patrick

In this war on terror, there is nobody adocating wanton torture. Contrast:

Washington ordered men in the Revolutionary Army executed when they disobeyed orders.
Washington executed spies from the other side.

"George Washington was commissioned to develop a Continental Army, but at first he found himself in tenuous command of an unruly mob of colonists fiercely proud of their independence from authority, and determined not to yield it to anyone. Washington's solution was to literally whip his army into shape; he encouraged Congress to raise the limit to 100 lashes, which they did in the 1776 update of the Articles of War. Out of his own frustration he tried to persuade the Congressmen to raise it to 500 strokes in 1781, but they declined. Nevertheless, courts martial managed to wring the maximum pain from the 100-stroke allowance by spreading out the process over a period of two or more floggings, as Lewis and Clark did in Alexander Willard's case."
http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=2641

The Americans tarred and feathered 'tories' who were on the wrong side.

Positing Bush administration as cruel compared with Washington, who ruled in a country apparently far tougher than ours is today, is laughable.

Gitmo terrorist prisoners are treated with more respect and fairness than your average county jailbird. And the interrogation and tribunal rules Congress has passed for the Bush administration clarify geneva rights for prisoners (right that terrorists have no legal standing to have, but which we are granting because of America's sense of responsibility to general humane treatment). The Bush administration is NOT proposing torture, but rules of engagement that allow for reasonable interrogation of terrorist prisoners who have information - psychological tricks and making people uncomfortable is not torture.

Further, the prisoners in this war have been granted more legal rights than prisoners in any previous conflict. Doubt me? Guess how many confederate soldiers got to submit habeas corpus petitions! These terrorists have gotten taxpayer funded advocates. hmmmm.

BTW, he may have flogged and executed soldiers, but I still agree Washington was a great President.

"And we're not that far from our president classifying that document and selectively re-releasing parts of it to fit his own interpretation. As a nation, we've all failed high school history." No, we've been too busy taking lessons in hyperbole, political extremist hatemongering and paranoia!

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