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Wednesday, March 01, 2006

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Karen E.

"This seems like such a precarious step onto that slippery slope. This is just way too sci-fi/Orwellian. It just feels so wrong."

Indeed. No other way to put it. It's wrong.

Tom

Hey. Look! The Family Research Council is straying into Catholic apologetics! I feel so ecumenical!

"What is at the core of being Catholic is the life issue, and that's something the pope has never strayed from," [the Family Research Council's Tom McClusky] said. "While other issues are important -- such as helping the poor, the death penalty, views on war -- these are things that aren't tenets of the Catholic Church."

Scott

"What is at the core of being Catholic is the life issue, and that's something the pope has never strayed from," [the Family Research Council's Tom McClusky] said. "While other issues are important -- such as helping the poor, the death penalty, views on war -- these are things that aren't tenets of the Catholic Church."

War and the death penalty aren’t "life issues"? I guess I don’t entirely understand how the death penalty isn’t a "life issue"—I mean, innit that the point? That you’re taking away someone’s "life"? Isn’t that the origin of the word "death" in the term "death penalty"? What’s more a life issue than ending someone’s?

"The Christian faith gave form [to Europe], and some of its fundamental values in turn inspired ‘the democratic ideal and the human rights’ of European modernity."
—Pope John Paul II
August 17, 2003

Human rights? Well, I mean, you know. I’m sure Pope JPII wasn’t talking about, say, torture. I mean, we don’t do that. Never, ever, ever. Unless, you know, we’re really, really, really pretty sure that the fella we’re torturing is, you know, a really, really bad guy. And most of the time we outsource it anyway. So that’s okay.

But we don’t do it. Did I mention that? We don’t. Never. Never ever. Oh, but don’t try to make it illegal. We need to keep our options open.

As for the Family Research Council, I gotta say, I find it a little hard to listen to Tony Perkins and his crew telling me what Catholicism is or is not about. The thing is, Tony, I don’t really pay a whole lotta heed to what someone who’s a bidniz pal of David Duke has to say about morality. I’m funny that way.

Oh, and as for "helping the poor" not being a tenet of the Catholic Church: mayhap he's sorta almost right. It's a basic tenet of being a Christian, not necessarily specifially Catholic. If you don't think that helping the poor is one of the most basic bedrock values, then you're not a Christian.

Scott

Say, did someone mention "torture?"

From The Washington Post:

U.S. Cites Exception in Torture Ban McCain Law May Not Apply to Cuba Prison
By Josh White and Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, March 3, 2006; A04

Bush administration lawyers, fighting a claim of torture by a Guantanamo Bay detainee, yesterday argued that the new law that bans cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of detainees in U.S. custody does not apply to people held at the military prison.

In federal court yesterday and in legal filings, Justice Department lawyers contended that a detainee at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, cannot use legislation drafted by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to challenge treatment that the detainee's lawyers described as "systematic torture."

Jesus love me, this I know, because the Bible tells me so.

Oh, but He doesn’t love them. The Bible doesn’t actually say that—in fact, it says just the opposite—but I mean, come on. Common sense, yo. So it’s okay to torture ‘em. Never mind what the law says. Because, as we all know, the president is above the law.

Ain’t that America for you and me?

Not for me, it’s not.

Coopcal

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Amen....as one who was secretly videotaped, I learned the hard way that the Constitution does not include an express right to privacy.......Cost me 20,000.00 too.

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